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WELPLY, HAYS & HOSFORD  - HISTORY

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The Welply family may have emigrated from Wales and according to the 'History of Bandon' were among the early plantation arrivals in the Bandon area of 1597

The following tables where complied by Don Wood from information via Margaret Warner, whose great Aunt was William Henry Welply's mother along with the Ballymoney and Kinneigh parish records (on this web site).

Changes are in red and will remain for about a month

WELPLY ANCESTRY
aka:  Whelpley  Whelply  Welply  Welpley
(07)  Joseph WELPLY 1 [c.1650-    ]  mc.1680  Unk UKN
   |----(08)  Dela WELPLY [c.1680-    ]  mc.1710  Cormac McCARTHY
2  [c.1680-c.1761]
            |     (Cormac changed his name upon the marriage to Cormac Welply
            |----(09)  Dela Welply 
*****|----(09)  John McCarthy Mor WELPLY  mc.1740   Elizabeth MINHEER  ******(see note at bottom of this section)
3
            |        |----(10)  William, eldest born 1741/42-1833]
            |        |----(10)  John WELPLY [c.1744-   ] of Bengour  m.1775  Sarah HOSFORD [c.1750-    ]
            |        |        |----(11)  John WELPLY [c.1775-    ]  m.1809  Sarah NORWOOD [c.1775-    ] of Dunmanway
            |        |        |        |----(12)  William Norwood WELPLY [1810-1885]  m.1844  Ellen JAGOE
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  James WELPLY 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13) 
John Jagoe WELPLY [1851-     ]  mc.1879  Ellen
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  John Jagoe WELPLY [1880-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Samuel WELPLY 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  William WELPLY 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Elizabeth WELPLY
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Elizabeth WELPLY [c.1812-    ]  m.  Unk ATKINS of Dunmanway area
            |        |        |        |?? (12)  Ellen WELPLY (not sure of this 2nd daughter)  m.  John UKN  
            |        |        |----(11)  Elizabeth WELPLY 3 [c.1778-    ]  m.1775  Barter HAYES
5
            |        |        |----(11)  Dau,. WELPLY [c.1790-    ]  m.  Samuel ANGLIN of Ballineen
            |        |        |             (may be related to Robert Anglin (see Hayes below)
            |        |        |----(11)  Joseph [1791->1821] living in 1821;  died unmarried  
            |        |        |----(11)  Abigail WELPLY [1794-    ]  m.1821  Herny BULLEN of Bengour
            |        |        |----(11)  William WELPLY [1795->1852]  m.1819  Martha ORR of Bandon [c.1795-    ]
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Martha WELPLY [1820-    ]  m.  James BURCHILL
(he married her sister, Eliza)
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Sara WELPLY  m.  Thomas HAINES  
            |        |        |        |----(12)  John WELPLY [1824-c.1845]
            |        |        |        |----(12)  William WELPLY [1826-     ]
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Eliza WELPLY [1829-    ]  m.  James BURCHILL
(her brother-in-law, after her sister's death) 
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Anne WELPLY [1831-1889]  m.  1859  Thomas HOSFORD [c.1830-1896]
            |        |        |        |        |                                                                      of Farranmareen
(her 2nd cousin)
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  John HOSFORD [1859-     ] 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Sarah HOSFORD [1861-    ] 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  William Welply HOSFORD [1863-    ] 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Thomas HOSFORD [1865-     ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Martha Jane HOSFORD [1867-    ]   
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Benjamin HOSFORD [1869-     ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Elizabeth HOSFORD [c.1870-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Sarah HOSFORD [c.1873-     ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Walter HOSFORD [1875-     ] 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  James Orr HOSFORD [1877-    ] 
            |        |        |        |----(12)  James Orr WELPLY [c.1833-    ]  m1.1856  Mary HOSFORD [c.1838-c.1862]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  James WELPLY [C.1857-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  ??  James E. H. WELPLY [C.1883-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Anne WELPLY
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Maria WELPLY   Ukn BRADFIELD  ?M?  Maria [1867-     ]  m.  William Bradford
            |        |        |        |      ----   James Orr WELPLY  m2.1864  Sarah CHINNERY [c.1838-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  William Henry WELPLY [1866- c.1960]    well known genealogist
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  James Edward WELPLY [1867-1937]  m.1898  Margaret HOSFORD [1866-1929]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Martha WELPLY [1899-1984]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  James Orr WELPLY [1900-1974]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  William Henry WELPLY [1902-1986]  m.  nc
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Margaret J. WELPLY [1869-    ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  George Chinnery WELPLY [1870-1948]  m.1909  Helene Charlotte ROSS [1886-1963]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Vida WELPLY [1910-     ]  nm
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Rupert WELPLY ]1912-1940]  m.1939  Myfawny LAMBERT 
 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Martha WELPLY [1872-     ]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Sarah WELPLY [1874-1960] nm  
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Alfred WELPLY [1876-1970]  m.1904  Sarah P. JACK [1876-1966] 
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  dau. WELPLY
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  dau. WELPLY
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Gilman Chinnery WELPLY [1909-1950]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Oonagh WELPLY [1910-     ]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Denys WELPLY [     -1944]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Patrick WELPLY [1916-1923]  
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Louis WELPLY [c.1877-1966]  m.1911  Constance SWIRE [1886-1952]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  William Rupert WELPLY, Dr. [1912-1970]  m.1939  Margaret IVY [1914-1973]
            |        |        |        |        |         |         |----(15)  son 
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Moyra WELPLY [1913-c.1990] nm
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Connie WELPLY
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Norman C, WELPLY [1919-1987]
            |        |        |        |        |         |----(14)  Kathleen H. WELPLY 
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Elizabeth WELPLY [1877-1961]
            |        |        |        |        |----(13)  Rupert WELPLY [1882-1910] 
            |        |        |        |----(12)  Mary Jane WELPLY [1836-   ]  m.  John SMITH     
            |        |----(10)  Joseph WELPLY died unmarried
            |        |----(10)  Dau. WELPLY  m.  Alderman SPARKS
            |        |----(10)  Dau. WELPLY  m.  Alderman PENLERRICK
            |        |----(10)  Dau. WELPLY  m.  Sir John CROWE
            |        |----(10)  Dau. WELPLY  m.  Ukn BALDWIN of Callyvourney
            |        |----(10)  Dau. WELPLY  m.  Ukn BELLSANG of Bandon
            |        |----(10)  Dau, WELPLY [c.1760-    ]  mc.1781   Walter PHILIPS
4 [c.1750-    ] of Kinalmeaky 
            |        |               (this connection to our Phillips is not confirmed)
            |        |----(10)  possible- Abigail WELPLY  m.  John NASH of Brinny (highly dubious) 
            |----(09)  Samuel WELPLY
            |----(09)  James WELPLY

Notes:

1.    John O'Hart reports say that Joseph Welply arrived from Wales.  This may be true and we know from the 'History of Bandon' that there were Welplys at Bandon, 1597.

2.    Cormac McCarthy of the McCarthy clan changed his name to Cormac Welply and changed his religion to Protestant in order to get his hands on his wife's inheritance.  During early Penal times Catholics were not allowed to own property.  

3.     LDS records show John Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1719-    ]  mc.1741  Elizabeth MINHEER [c.1723-    ] with the following issues:  William Welply MacCarthy MOR [1742-1833];  Joseph Welply MacCarthy MOR [c1746-    ];  Miss Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1748-    ];  Miss Welply MacCarthy MOR  [c.1750-    ];  Abigail Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1754-    ] of Brinny;  Miss Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1760-    ] of Mossgrove and Miss Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1762-    ].  All persons where of Cork, Cork, Ireland unless otherwise shown.  Assumption is being made here that Walter Philips may be the father of our Charles Phillips

4.    LDS records show  Walter PHILLIPS [c.1750-    ] of Mossgrove  mc.1781 at Mossgrove  Miss. Welply MacCarthy MOR [c.1760-    ] of Mossgrove

5.    Assumptions in that we assume that Barter Hayes is the sibling of Eliza Hayes who married Charles Phillips.

   

There are many variations for the spelling of WELPLY:  WHELPY;  WHELPLEY;  WELPLEY (at least)
          

HAYES  ANCESTRY

Nothing is known about the early history of this family and this is an assumption from information that looks right

(09)  William HAYES  mc.1770/5  Jane UKN
   |----(10)  Barter HAYES [c.1773-1825]  m.1795  Elizabeth WELPLY
   |        |----(11)  Jane HAYES [1795-    ]
   |        |----(11)  William HAYES [1796-    ]
   |        |----(11)  Sarah HAYES [1802-    ]  m.1829  Robert ANGLIN1 
   |----(10)  Eliza HAYES2  [c.1784-1859]  mc.1800  Charles PHILLIPS [c.1772-1852] 

Notes:

1.    This union is an assumption.  See 'Anglin family' and contact Bill Anglin

2.    According to parish records Eliza died 1859 at the age of 75.  This would make her birth c.1784.  We are sure that she had a daughter Catherine who died 1810 but no record shows her birth or baptism.  The earliest record for the parish of Ballymoney is 1805 and for Kinneigh is 1797.  William, a son, was baptized in 1805.  With naming conventions of the time we might assume that there was a Walter Phillips and Catherine Phillips born to Charles and Eliza prior to 1805.  Thus, we can not believe that Eliza was about 16 yrs of age when marring and giving birth to a religious family of that day.  Therefore, we can not believe the parish record - as one can not place reliance on single data no matter what the source - and if we calculate Eliza to be about 22 or so at the time of marriage then she would have been born about, 1777/78; which, is more in line with being a sibling of Barter.  

 

HOSFORD  ANCESTRY

(09)  John HOSFORD [c.1707-1786]  mc.1740
   |----(10)  John HOSFORD [c.1740-    ]
   |----(10)  Sarah HOSFORD [c.1750-    ]  m.1775  John WELPLY

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