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In Memory of
Harold "Hal" TURNER
English Army Officer TURNER [c.1770-
from an obit for George Turner [1835-1906] ..."his grandfather was an English Army Officer." This must refer to Turner as Tobias Knox was not known to be in the army.
|11||Joseph TURNER Sr. [c.1797-1848] &
(Emiline) KNOX [1816-1911]
Joseph Turner, possibly the s/o an English Army officer; was born c.1797 in Nottinghamshire, England and immigrated to the United States about 1825; it was reported that he was in New York State when he met Emily KNOX; married Emily on 15 Mar., 1834 and arrived in Michigan Territory ( 2 years prior to statehood) in 1835 and prior to their first born, George; settled at Clinton in Lenawee (formerly Branch Co.) County; involved with mercantile and grist mill; operated a gristmill on the Rouge River, Wayne County in 1837; moved to Detroit in 1846 or 1847 and operated a dry goods and grocery store; June of 1848 bought a grist mill and store at Stoney Creek, , Avon Tp. , Oakland Co., Michigan and they moved in July, 1848; on 21 Nov., 1848 Joseph died leaving his wife, 6 children and one child unborn.
* may have operated the grist mill on the river Raisin
* the Rouge River location was .....on the North Branch of The Rouge River between the grist mill known as Rufus Wells and the grist mill occupied by said Turner to a post on land between Wells and Dumois...thence to the bank of the river;
* the Detroit store location was at ...the west half of Lot 28, Section 9 on Madison Avenue. in Detroitland (Detroit);
* the Stoney Creek locations were Lots 12, 13 & 35 of Stoney Creek (sometimes spelt Stony Creek); a member and Treasurer (1847-1848) of the Detroit Masonic Lodge; probable burial place is at the Stoney Creek Cemetery, Avon Tp. , Oakland Co., Michigan. (grave not found)
Emily Knox was born 16 Dec., 1816 at Dudley, Worcester, England and emigrated from England to New York State c. 1825; father - Tobias KNOX, mother - Unknown (believed to be Elizabeth ???); married at ae 17, Joseph TURNER in 1834; moved with Joseph to Michigan 2 years prior to Michigan becoming a state; Joseph died in 1848 at Stoney Creek; much of Emily is known from the various affidavits that she made and of those that were made on her behalf and other information was provided by County Records; November 1848, Joseph died and left her with 6 young children and one child yet to be born; George her first child was 15 years old; creditors of the store goods filed claims against the goods and Emily fought them off for two years; the creditors, I assume, could not believe that Emily was capable of running the store; Emily was left with a debt of $4,000.00; within the next two years, 1848-1850 Emily disposed of the Detroit property and remained at Stoney Creek fending off the creditors; c. 1852 moved to Pontiac; the creditors received 10 cents on the dollar; Emily was left poor and relied on her children to support her; 1862 moved to Saginaw and lived with her son, Charles; affidavits and applications for Pension regarding her son, Albert who died in 1862, in the War of the Rebellion, state that she was married 15 Mar., 1834; these forms gave no witnesses nor the location of that marriage; longest known friend, from these papers, was Andrew W. Freeto who had known her since 1834; on one of her affidavits when was asked to supply disinterested individuals who knew of her personal affairs, Emily stated that "....she was not in the habit of disclosing personal information to disinterested persons."
Emily remained with her son, Charles at 1702 Court St., Saginaw until her death on 30 May, 1911 at the age of 94; outlived all her children except Charles who died 2 years later; interred 1 Jun, 1911 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Mich. (FAG: 130108486)
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George TURNER, Capt. [1835-1906]
m1.1857 Julia Ann SMITH mc2.1865 Sophia P. Thompson [1838-1908]
Edith TURNER [1860-1931]
m.1877 Israel Harris (Dick) RICHARDSON [1846/48-1920]
Edith, d/o George Turner & Julia Smith; born, 3 May, 1860, in Michigan; married 29 Aug, 1877 (one record shows - 25th) Israel H. Richardson; member of W. R. C. auxiliary of the G. A. R. organization and Lady Maccabees; died Midland, Midland County, Michigan on Jan, 3, 1931 (Obit. date: 8 Jan, ,1931, P.2); interred in Richardson Plot, Sec. E, Midland Cemetery, Midland, Michigan.
Israel, born at Port Dover, Ontario, Canada on 23 Apr, 1846 ; his father died when Israel was 6yrs; mother, Ester D. Richardson (1870 Midland Census shows her age at 50yrs (bc. 1820) and is keeping House, born Canada West (Ontario)), and remaining family move to Genesee County, Michigan, c.1852; he moves to Midland in 1863 and was known as 'Dick"; a carpenter and builder; joined, at age 17, the 29th Michigan Infantry, Company 'H' in 1864; 1870 census shows him as a carpenter and born Canada West (Ontario); 1880 census shows him with Edith, Julia E. and Reid; member of Unitarian Church; 1894 Michigan Veteran Index shows him in the 3rd Ward of Saginaw City; died 24 Jun, 1920 and was living at the home on Jerome Street, Midland, Michigan; interred in Richardson Plot, Sec. E, Midland Cemetery, Midland, Michigan (FAG: 66530814) (Richardson Plot has (assumed) a brother of Israel, C .A. Richardson and some of his family)
See Also: Edith [Obit]; Israel: [Obit]
Found: Lists of graduates having finished the State Course of Study for the rural school, Edith Turner,
Julia E. RICHARDSON [c.1878-1898]
1880 census shows Julia to be 2yrs old;
George Reid RICHARDSON [1879-1937] m1.1910 Lotta Belle PERRY [c.1880-<1924]
m2.1924 Ethel (HILL) HOADLEY
George: s/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 13 Dec, 1879, MI; lived at 353 Tremont, North Tonawanda, NYS in 1915; originated and owned The Richardson Boat Company from 1909-1937 ( his 2nd wife, Ethel, ran the company until 1941 when the company was sold); produced pleasure craft and during WWII, motor tugs for the US gov't; president of the Chamber of Commerce; active in Scout work; member of the Kiwanis Club of which he was past president, member of the Youngstown Yacht Club, Olcott Yacht Club, Buffalo Launch Club, American Power Boat Association, New York Regatta club and the North Presbyterian church; married first, Lotta Perry, 1910; and together they had Jean E. Richardson, b.1911; secondly, he married Ethel Hill who had previously married Harry Hoadley and they had, at least, one son, Harry C. Hoadley; George died at North Tonawanda, NYS, 17 Feb, 1937; interred Midland Cemetery*, Midland, Michigan. * I originally had George buried in Midland but on findagrave (FAG) there is a G. Reid Richardson buried in Bear Ridge Cemetery, Pendleton, Niagara Co, NYS. The dates are correct and there is a memorial with the gravestone (FAG 131477056). I see no wives buried with George,.
George and Ethel were widower/widow at the time of their second marriage.
RICHARDSON [c.1911-?? 1969] ** m. 14 Apr, 1937 James Franklin MOORE
last know to be living in CA, 1937
** Also found Jean E. Richardson married to Wendell E. Herwick [c.1908-1931] and last living in Los Angeles, CA
Dwight RICHARDSON [1884-1912]
Dwight; s/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; b. 12 Oct, 1884, Midland; bur. Midland Cemetery (Richardson's Plot) (FHC)
Irene H. RICHARDSON [1886-1941] m.1907 Glen Beattie
Irene, d/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 1886; grad of Midland Normal School, 1906; married 27 Jun, 1907 at Bay City; lived at St. Charles, Auburn and Saginaw City all of Saginaw County, Michigan; died 1941; interred Midland Cemetery, Sec. E, Midland, Michigan (Richardson Plot)
Glen, s/o Durance J. Skelton and Alice Beattie; born 9 Sep, 1885 in Bay County, Michigan; lived at Unionville; employed by Robert Gage Coal Co.; in 1909 he was an engineer; remarried Milda Geyer in 1946; died 30 Jun, 1977 at Unionville, Tuscola Co., Michigan; interred Pine Grove Cemetery.
Milda M; born 6 Nov, 1897 at Reese, Mich; maiden name was Kaul; there were 3 children of Milda and her first husband, ?? Geyer; died 6 Apr, 1980 at Saginaw; interred St. Lorenz Cemetery
Charlotte Olana SKELTON [1908-1909]
Charlotte, d/o Irene Richardson & Glen Skelton; born 5 July 1908 Born: Michigan; died 10 February 1909 ; interred Pine Grove Cemetery, Williams Township, Bay County, Michigan
Priscilla Jean SKELTON [1909-1974] m. Bruce BREMER (div)
Priscilla; d/o Irene Richardson & Glen Skelton; born 5 Jul, 1909, Auburn, Mich; died 2Jul, 1974, Detroit, Mich; interred Fisherville Cem.
Richard Glen SKELTON [1911-1993] m. Elinor
Richard; s/o Irene Richardson & Glen Skelton; born 1 Jul, 1911; moved to California; died 30 Sep, 1993 in San Diego, Cal.
Robert Beattie SKELTON [1913- ] m. Mary Ada
CARMACK [1918- ]
SKELTON [1917- ] m1. Kenneth SWEET
m2. ?? BERRITT
Edith; d/o Irene Richardson & Glen Skelton;
|15||Eugene SKELTON [1918-
] m. Charlotte MILLER
|15||Frances Esther SKELTON [1920-1973]
m. Don GOTTSCHALK
Belle, d/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 6 Dec, 1888; attended Midland Normal School; died 9 Dec, 1898 at Midland
Geraldine A. RICHARDSON [1890-1974]
Geraldine, d/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 28 Apr, 1890; grad. Midland Normal School, 1909; a professional nurse at New York City; died July, 1974 at Bay City; interred Midland Cemetery, Sec. U, Midland, Michigan
Israel Harold RICHARDSON [1894-1971]
m.1916 Amelia M. ZEGELIEN [1898-1973]
Israel, s/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 17 Sep, 1894; lived at Midland, Michigan; employed at Dow Chemical; m. 16 Sep, 1916, Midland; died 6 Nov, 1971 at Sarasota, Florida; interred in Midland Cemetery, Se. U, Midland, Michigan;
Amelia, d/o Fred Zegelien & Emma Cranbright; b. 6 Apr, 1898, Homer Tp, MI; died 1973, at Ogden, Utah; interred in Midland Cemetery, Midland, Michigan
Frederick RICHARDSON [1917-1945] m.1944
Frederick, s/o Israel & Amelia; born 1917 at Midland, Michigan; graduated by Michigan State College in June of 1941; August entered the Army; he trained first with a chemical warfare unit; in Honolulu on 7 Dec, 1941; at Camp Cooke, CA., Mar, 1944; trained in tank operations; he married 6 Mar, 1944; shipped to England in Aug, 1944; involved in the Battle of the Bulge and was killed, 14 Jan,1945, in action, Belgium, WWII; interred in Midland Cemetery, Midland, Michigan,
Lulu RICHARDSON [c.1878-1978] m. William
Lulu, d/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; . b. Mar, 1878; grad. Midland Normal School, 1910; lived in California; poss: died Aug, 1978 at East Lansing, Michigan
Found: 1930 - Santa Monica, Los Angeles, CA:
William, 83 b. Canda; LulaL, 52, b. MI;
Eric RICHARDSON [1897-1966]
Eric, s/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson; born 28 May, 1897; lived at Detroit, Michigan; died at Midland, Mar, 1966.
Jessie M. RICHARDSON [c.1883- ] m.1903 George E. BURD
Jessie: d/o Edith Turner and Israel Richardson;; mar. 8 Apr, 1903; lived at Milwaukee, WI
George; s/o Alfred N. Burd & Amy Sinclair
|13||George Edwin TURNER [1867-1937]
Elizabeth ATKINSON [1867-1939]
George, s/o George Turner & Sophia Thompson; born at Chattanooga, Tenn., 28 Oct, 1867; attended school at Bay City; became Asst. City Engineer, 1898; married Kathleen Atkinson, 23 Dec, 1901; lived at 1810 5th Ave,, Bay City; City Engineer; died 9 Nov, 1937, ae. 70,0,11; interred 11 Nov, 1937, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich. (FAG: 171841039)
Kathleen, d/o Robert Atkinson & Elizabeth ? Ritchey ? of Bay City; born 10 Mar, 1867; died at Ann Arbor, Mich. on 1 Dec, 1939, .72,8,21; interred 3 Dec, 1939, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich.
not aware of any issues
TURNER, Charles Knox Sr. [1837-1913] m.1859
Jeannette Whittier Allison BYRON [1845-1916]
Charles, s/o Joseph Turner & Emily Knox; born 4 May, 1837 near Detroit (Dearbornville); moved to Saginaw, 1852; engaged in lumbering; married Jeanette Byron on 8 Jun,1859 at Saginaw City; resided at 1702 Court St., Saginaw; died Saginaw, 28 Mar., 1913; interred 31 Mar, 1913, .75 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Mich.; (FAG: 130105403)
Jeannette, born Glasgow, Scotland 7 Jun, 1845; d/o Peter A. Byron and Janet Allison Cochrane; immigrated 1849; married Charles K. Turner, 8 Jun., 1859 at Saginaw, Mich.; died 9 Oct, 1916 at Saginaw, Mich.; interred 13 Oct, 1916, .73 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Mich.; (FAG:130109231)
Note: The Court Street home was last occupied by May Turner and sold in 1945. It was reviewed in 1967 (see Family Page) and eventually torn down.
For more on the Byron family see:
Charles Knox Jr. TURNER [1864-1919]
Lilly May EASTMAN [1868-1923]
See Also: Lilly [Obit]
Obituary Index - Edmond J born Cayuga, Ont; 23 May, 1862
May, d/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born Saginaw 11 Oct., 1866; graduate of the University of Michigan; teacher and private tutor in Saginaw; she was the last to live at the 1702 Court St, Saginaw Turner home and after selling in 1945 she moved to Englewood, NJ.; lived with her brother, Harold K, at 113 Phelps Ave; died at Englewood 5 Apr., 1948; interred, 8 Apr, 1948, . 81 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw. (FAG: 130110273) - unmarried.
Whittier TURNER [1868-1942] m.
Helen WEBB [1863-1941]
Joseph, s/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born, 7 Oct., 1868 Saginaw, Michigan; married Helen Webb of Camden, Ohio; in 1910, living at 2939 Cottage Grove Ave., Des Moines; operated J. W. Turner Improvement Company, an engineering and general contractor business from 309 Youngerman Block, Des Moines; died, at home, 7 Mar., 1942; interred Glendale Cemetery, Des Moines (SW1/4 of Lot 00107, Block 26). (FAG: 63834743)
Helen, born 31 Mar., 1861 at Camden, Ohio; d/o Abraham Webb and Mary Jane (Brown) Webb (Abraham born in Virginia, Mary Jane born in Ohio); married Joseph Whittier Turner c. 1899; the 1910 survey shows a sister, Elizabeth Long, a widow age 38, living in the house on Cottage Grove; Helen died 1 Jan., 1941, Des Moines, Iowa; interred Glendale Cemetery, Des Moines (SW1/4 of Lot 00107, Block 26). (FAG: 63834727)
(Ed. Note: I believe that Whittier is from his mother's maiden name. Jeanette W. A. (Byron) Turner).
Jesse A. TURNER [1870-1922]
Jesse, s/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born Saginaw; Real Estate Salesman; died Portland, Oregon; interred, 16 Feb, 1922 .50 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Mich.. (FAG: 130109309) - not believed to have been married
See Also: Jessie [Obit]
A. TURNER [1872-1943]
Lillian, d/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born Saginaw, 2 May, 1872; graduate of Arthur Hill Class of 1893 as an Educator, Michigan State Normal College; taught school at Saginaw for 35 years; died 30 Jan, 1943, ae. 70yrs; interred, 2 Feb, 1943, .70 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw; (FAG: 130109727) - unmarried
Harold Kleiny (afa- Klieny & Kliny*) TURNER [1877-1947]
Harold, s/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born Saginaw 28 Feb., 1877; attended the University of Michigan, 97-98; moved to Englewood, NJ. in 1910; lived at 113 Phelps Ave., Englewood; employed at Consolidated Edison as an electrical engineer; married Maria Dingman; died Englewood, Bergen Co., NJ, 24 Nov, 1947 : (FAG: 130630053)
Maria, daughter the last of 10 children of Mills Dingman, born 4 Mar, 1880 at Shortman, NY; was raised by an her Aunt Maria Dingman Plass & Uncle William Plass (they had no children (dsp)); died, 28 Jun, 1967 (ae: 88) at Englewood, NJ. (Shortman was re-named - unknown at this time where this town was but there is reference to a Shortman near Syracuse, NY) The Plass family lived at Stuyvesant Falls, NY (Near the Hudson River, south of Albany)
Harold and Maria
interred Brookside Cemetery., Englewood, NJ.;
(Plot 146) .
Harold and Maria also held property on
Long Island which became part of the McArthur Airport in 1950.
|14||Grace M. TURNER [1906-1982]
m. Albert WACHTER [1907-?1989]
Grace, d/o Harold K. Turner & Maria Dingman; born at New York City on 23 Mar, 1906; died, May 1982 at Greenwich, NY, USA. d. 9 May, 1982; bur. Riverside Cemetery, Fort Miller, Washington Co, NY, USA. (FAG: 119296314)
Albert, may have been born 9 Jul, 1907 died 4 Feb, 1989 (ssdi); may have owned a farm at Greenwich, Washington, NYS; bur. Riverside Cemetery, Fort Miller, Washington Co, NY, USA. (FAG: 119296302)
Notes: I think Albert was born in NYC and there met Grace; after 1930 they married and moved to Greenwich where they operated a farm. It appears that both died at Greenwich. The issued two male children - names withheld
|14||Harold Mills TURNER [1907-1987]
m.1932 Dorothy KOSBAHN [1914-1998 ]
Harold, s/o Harold K. Turner & Maria Dingman; born 27 Jun, 1907 in Manhattan (#34062); employed by Alcoa Aluminum; banker for Citizen's First National Bank in Ridgewood; member of Masonic Lodge #230; lived in Ridgewood, NJ and, lastly, in Beach Haven Park of Long Branch, NJ ; died 21 Dec., 1987; interred in George Washington Cemetery, Paramus, NJ. (Tier 6; Row T; SE Quad)
Dorothy; born 26 Mar, 1914; worked for NJ Bell, Newark for 30 years; member of Telephone Pioneers of New Jersey amd a Girl Scout Leader; died 25 Jul, 1998 at Sunrise, Florida; interred in George Washington Cemetery, Paramus, NJ. (Tier 6; Row T; SE Quad)
Notes: Mills comes from his mother's father's name, Mills Dingman
Jesse A. TURNER,
Virginia OXENHAM [1907-1996]
Jesse, s/o Harold K. Turner & Maria Dingman; born New York City; married Virginia Oxenham on 2 Sep, 1928 at New City, NY; president of Citizen's National Bank and Englewood Hospital; member of Knickerbocker Country Club, Tenafly, NJ.; retired at Englewood, NJ.; died 10 Mar, 2003, ae. 94
Virginia; d/o Arthur Oxenham & Margretta Polhemus was born 10 Nov, 1907 at Atlanta, Georgia; died 27 Oct, 1996.
both interred Brookside Cemetery, Englewood, NJ (Plot 146, Graves 2)
Huldah Allison TURNER [1910-2001] m. David
Huldah, d/o Harold K. Turner & Maria Dingman; born 14 Oct, 1910, New York; married David; lived at Englewood and was a registered nurse at Englewood Hospital until 1976; died 18 Jun, 2001; interred George Washington Cemetery, Paramus, NJ.
David, possibly: born 15 Feb, 1914; died Jun, 1982; last residence was Hillsdale, Bergen, New Jersey; d. 22 Feb, 1987; interred George Washington Cemetery, Paramus, NJ, (FAG: 129801930)
They had 2 children
See Also: Huldah: [Obit]
Roy TURNER [1878-1933] m.1907
Daisy Mabel RITCHINGS [1887-1981]
Henry (Harry) R. HAMER [ -1954]
William, s/o Charles K. Turner & Jeanette Byron; born 11 Feb, Saginaw; moved to Reading, PA; married 26 Jan, 1907, New York; Daisy Mabel Ritchings; employed at Metropolitan Edison Company and was responsible for many safety systems; died 29 July, 1933Reading, PA.; interred, 2 Aug, 1933 in Oakwood Cemetery, Saginaw, Mich.; (FAG: 130110602)
Daisy, d/o Alfred and Matilda Ritchings; born at Bristol, England on 3 Nov, 1887; married first William; next Henry Hamer in 1936; died at Holland, Ohio on 10 Nov, 1981. (Henry, died 1954;)
May TURNER [1910-2009] m.1934 Edward Francis SCHNEIDER [1908-1985]
Daisy May, d/o William Roy Turner & Daisy Mabel Ritchings; born New York City, 27 May, 1910; moved to Toledo, Ohio; married Edward in 1934; a school teacher; together they had 2 issues; died 25 December 2009 in Huntsville, Alabama.
Edward Francis,,,, born 8 Aug, 1908; graduated as an electrical engineer; employed by Toledo Edison; a sales director with Toledo Edison; member and past master of Pyramid Lodge, F&AM; chairman of zoning for Springfield Township, Ohio; active in the Monroe St. United Methodist Church; died Oct, 1985 at the time of his death they were at Holland, Lucas, OH.
|14||Alfred Byron TURNER [1916-2001] m.
Patricia Eileen GATELY [1924-2001]
Alfred, s/o William Roy Turner & Daisy Mabel Ritchings; born Reading, PA. 23 Mar, 1916; died 21 Dec, 2001; bur. Coral Ridge Cemetery, Cape Coral, Lee Co, FL, USA. (FAG: 142169326)
Patricia, born 28 Jun, 1924; died 20 Dec, 2001. bur. Coral ridge Cemetery, Cape Coral, Lee Co, FL, USA. (FAG: 142169383)
|12||Edwin TURNER [1839- ??
1881] This family is unproven - my
initial information was that Edwin had moved to Chicago, Other than
his birth date and possible link to the printing business, nothing ties this
Edwin to my Turner family. Edwin may have been with a printer in
Oakland Co. as was his brother, Albert. HOWEVER, there is another or
maybe another Edwin who is said to he born in Lower Canada (Ontario) in the
same year and he also shows up as a Printer, in Michigan and moving to
m.1863 Susan M. LLOYD [c.1847 > 1910]
1860 - Census -Midland County, Michigan -
Edwin, 21, Printer, Lower Canada (??? this bothers me as if mine he could
not have been born in Canada); also, Susan M, 14 living with David &
Lucy J. Lloyd and brother, Coltin P..
1870 Census - Illinois Census, Chicago
Ward 14, page 164, line 5: Turner, Elmer, 32, printer, born Michigan.
Susan, 25, keeping house, born Michigan Marcus R, 5, at home, born
Michigan. Loyd, David, 62, personal value 500, born New York Loyd, Lucy J, 50,
keeping house, real value 3000, born New York;
1880 - census on LDS - Cicero, Cook, Ill - Edwin ae41 b. MI,
Publisher; Susan M, ae. 32, Keeping House; Marcus, ae 14, b.
Mich, office boy; Grace M. ae. 7, born Ill, at school - if correct
family then they arrived Chicago, 1867-1873 - may have stopped of in Indiana
Illinois Death Index: Turner, Edwin M. 19 Jul, 1881 Cook Co. ae 41=c.1840; Printer, Cert# 0000297, Cook
1897-1899 - Chicago - no Edwin Turner or Arthur (Edwin's uncle) found in City Dirs. Was there a Marcus as Printer/ Publisher?? Was Susan living with Marcus or Grace Gunthrope?? In 1910, I found his probable brother, William, in Chicago
1910 Susan M Turner, 63 is
living with Grace Myrtle /Mertie Turner, 36 married 1873 to William Percy. Gunthorp
Jr,, bc.1872, with several
children, Donald W., 15 Doris,15 Norma, 13 (b. Cook co) and Thomas , 4 in
Philadelphia, Ward 12. )
Graves: Forest Lawn Cemetery, Forest
Park, Cook, IL: Edwin M. Turner 1839-1881; Susan M. Turner
1846-1935; m. 1863 parents of Susan: David Lloyd 1807-1883 and
Lucy Jane Lloyd 1820-1867;
1940 Last finding:: Grace Myrtle Gunthorp, Ward 8 Philadelphia, PA age 67, widowed b. Illinois .1873
Marcus TURNER [1866- ]
other than above I
have not be able to locate Marcus or a Marcus Rueban / Ruben
Chicago: Marcus R., 5
TURNER [1873- ] m.1893 William Perry /
Percy GUNTHORPE / GUNTHORP Jr [1872- ]
Grace, d/o Edwin Turner & Susan M. Lloyd; b. 20 Jan, 1873, Chicago; m. 1893, Chicago; moved to Philadelphia, PA c.1900; issued: Donald, Doris, Norma, Thomas L, Holland Wm.
William; William, b.1872, Austin, Cook, Illinois, poss the s/o William P. Gunthrope & Priscilla Mould,
Found: a birth on ANC which says her birth is 20
Jan, 1873 BUT her father is E. Munroe Turner & mother
is Susan M. Lloyd - I have never and do not know from where this Monroe
|14||Donald William GUNTHORP
[.1894-1976 ] Found Donald W Gunthorp grave: Golden Gate
National Cemetery, San Bruno, San Mateo Co, CA b.17 Oct, 1894;
d. 31 Mar, 1976; married to Mae ????
|14||Doris GUNTHORP [c.1895-
|14||Norma GUNTHORP [1 Sep, 1896-
] b. Chicago, Cook, IL
|14||Holland William GUNTHORP
|14||Thomas L. GUNTHORP [c.1906-
|14||Priscilla GUNTHORP [c.1911-
] This was found on the 1920 census and not so sure if it is
|12||William TURNER [1841-1905]
Mary A. CONNOLLY
William, s/o Joseph Turner & Emily Knox; born Wayne County; said to have moved to South Bend, Indiana.
notes: May have been the William Turner involved with the Turner Oil Filter Co., South Bend, Ind. and of Niles, MI. and if so he married a May Ann Connelly and had one unmarried daughter, Grace. Mary & Grace (born in 1888) and was last heard of in 1912. Grace was Kindergarten Teacher, both living at 2007 S. Michigan, South Bend, IN This William died in Hot Springs, Arkansas 26 Mar, 1905: William B. Turner Age 63, born Michigan died 26 Mar, 1905 of heart failure, male, white, married, visitor (he was there due to health reasons from about 13 Mar) Occupation Manufacturer, Attending Physician EC Hay, Cemetery South Bend, Ind. (Riverside)
Only thing that makes him my William is that he was born in Michigan, c.1841 and that he was of South Bend - no connection to Michigan Turner's yet
|12||Emily Jr. TURNER [1844- ]
m.1864 Sylvester VIBBER [1842- ]
IF all of the below is correct then Emily, I suspect, died early and maybe at child birth. Probably buried in a Midland Co. Cemetery, a Oakland Co. Cemetery or a cemetery in Saginaw City
Found at Find-A-Grave: Sylvester Vibber Jr.
Birth: Apr. 30, 1843; Saginaw; Saginaw
County; Michigan, USA
Civil War - Co D 16th Mich Inf
Son of Sylvester Sr. and Isadora Christine Vibber
He married Emily Turner (1844- ) on January 2, 1864 in Saginaw, Saginaw Co., MI.
He married Monira Kibbe on April 10, 1875 in Emerson Twp., Gratiot Co., MI. They were the parents of five boys and 2 girls
Apr, 2011 Found on Ancestry the
following: Turner, Emily. b. 1844, Avon, Oakland County, died aft. 1862;
mother, Emily, b. England, 1817; Domestic, residing, Rochester, MI
FHC: Emily Turner, bc.1845; m.
2 Jan, 1864 Sylvester VIBBER, bc. 1843; at Saginaw City, Saginaw, MI
ANC: Emily Turner, d. 1862; mother- Emily B Turner, b. England 1817; Oakland County, Michigan Vital Records 1800-1917
notes: she may have remarried as Sylvester may have joined the civil war
Albert TURNER, Pvt. [1846-1862]
Albert, s/o Joseph Turner & Emily Knox; born at Wayne County, Michigan; attended school at Stoney Creek, Mich. and after the family moved to Pontiac worked in a printing office, a farm hand & newsboy; enlisted at Pontiac as a private in Company "B" Tenth Michigan Volunteers on 28 Oct., 1861 for 3 years; under age at the time of enlistment but the enrollment records state that he was of age; apparently he lied about his age; near the engagement at Farmington, Mississippi in May 1862 Albert died of "Fever" on 13 Jun., 1862; interred in the National Cemetery at Corinth, Miss.; grave # 2497. (FAG: 3178301)
Stone reads: Albert Turner, Co. B, 10th Mich. Inf., Jun 13, 1862
See Corinth National Cemetery under "Graves"
Joseph TURNER, Jr.
[1849-1905] m.1873 Eliza McFARLIN * [1852-1909]
McFarlin is believed to be correct - I have seen McFarland
Joseph, s/o Joseph Turner & Emily Knox; born 6 Jul., 1849 at Stoney Creek, Oakland County, Mich.; attended local school; living with brother Charles at Saginaw, 1870; lumberman; moved to Bay City; engaged by S. H. Webster, lumbering and then Miller & Lewis; married Eliza McFarland 12 May, 1873, at Saginaw; member of the Bay City Bridge Commission in1892; in 1892, partnership with Albert Miller purchased the Stodgett Mill in Muskegon; brought the mill to Bay City; partnered as Fisher & Turner Mill; resided on Broadway St. and in 1889 built the house at 1514 Center Ave. (the house remains today, 2003); Joseph was chairman of the Planmakers and supplied the pine lumber for a platform (18ft square with railing) used by William Jennings Bryan for his speech at Washington Park, Bay City on 17 Oct, 1896, Joseph and Bryan arrived together in the same carriage; formed Turner Lumber Co. in 1900; their lumber was cut at Cutler, South River and Midland all in Ontario, Canada; the company had at least two offices in Ontario; one at Midland and one at Toronto; died in the King Edward Hotel, Toronto 27 Oct., 1905; interred 30 Oct, 1905, Elm Lawn, Cemetery, Bay City, Mich.. (FAG: 171737613)
d/o John F. McFarlin & Mary Anderson (both b. Scotland); b. 1 Jul, 1852 in
New York State; 1870 census shows her age of 18, living
with her sister Maggie & Joshua Blackmore* attending school;
died during an automobile test drive, 7 May, 1909; interred 10 May, 1909, Elm Lawn
Cemetery, Bay City, Mich.
Misc: in the Court News (of Bay City?) sometime after Eliza's death this notice appeared: Arthur Turner, who came here from New York to attend the funeral of his mother, Mrs. Joseph Turner, returned home today. Dwight Turner departed today for Toronto and Clarence will leave tomorrow for the same place. Robert McFarlin, brother of the deceased will return to Midland, Ont. tomorrow. Mrs. Turner left no will. The estate is said to be worth about $100,000 and this will be divided equally between the children
The naming of
Turner (formerly Turnerville), Arenac County,
|13||Arthur Blackmore TURNER
[1874-1915] m.1899 Laura Weaver COOK
Arthur; s/o Joseph Turner & Eliza McFarland; born 2 May, 1874 at Bay City; graduated, 1893, from the Michigan Military Academy, Orchard Lake, Oakland Co, MI; attended the University of Michigan, 93-95; moved to New York City; a banker & stock-broker; in residence at the City Club of New York; married in Chicago (Kenwood) on 26 Oct, 1899; lived at 22 Ivy, East Orange, NJ; died of Typhoid Fever, 5 Sep, 1915 at Orange, Essex co., NJ, ae:41,4,3; interred 9 Sep, 1915, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich..(FAG: 171737979)
Laura; d/o George Dilwyn & Dora Shaw; born 14 Apr, 1874 in Iowa;
Found: Laura Cook, b. 2 Jan, 1876 d. Jun, 1976; Montclair, Essex, NJ, 153-40-22825 issued NJ Do not know if this is our Laura
See Also: Arthur [Obit]
Dwight Joseph TURNER [1875-1935]
m.1907 Florence Mitchell
Florence, born Toronto
12 Apr., 1881; d/o Francis J. Phillips & Annie Bacon;
attended The Model
School and Bishop Strachan; married Dwight J. Turner 23 Jan., 1907 at the Church of the
Redeemer; lived at 106 Madison Ave., 179 Balmoral Ave., returning to
Toronto Florence lived at 126 Heath St., 46 Oriole Rd., 60
Oriole Gardens; died 18 Jun., 1951; interred in Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Toronto.
Philip Dwight TURNER
Hazel WERRY [1904-2012]
Philip, s/o Dwight Turner & Florence Phillips, born Toronto, 4 Apr., 1908; attended Upper Canada College; stock broker, accountant; married Hazel Werry of Oshawa at Oshawa, 1935; their children (pictured at left c.1950) were Carol, Michael and Paul; they lived in Toronto and in Windsor until Philip was offered the opportunity to run Phillips Toronto Ltd.; moving back to Toronto, Philip started his training to take over Phillips Toronto Ltd.; his Uncle Bill Phillips, the part owner and manager, died in 1939 and after a few years Philip became the manager; the company, whose ownership was shared by Francis Phillips's daughters and sons, sold the company after Bill Phillips's death and Philip remained as manager; in 1953 the company moved the plant operation to Strathroy, Ontario and Philip and his family moved there; died at Strathroy 6 Dec., 1961; interred Parklawn Cemetery, Toronto.(FAG: 21904994
Hazel, d/o Milton & Lottie Werry, born 10 Nov, 1904 at Tyrone, Ontario; m1 Philip Turner; m2 Thomas 'Harold' HOAR [1901-1961]; died 1 Apr, 2012, Toronto; interred Parklawn Cemetery. (FAG: 139931062)
Joseph TURNER III
Hilary MENNELL [1914-1947] m2.
Rhoda Alice MENNELL
Joseph, s/o Dwight Turner & Florence Phillips, born Toronto, 19 Oct., 1910; attended Upper Canada College; bank teller; 1938 employed National Steel Car, in 1945 with Victory Aircraft as the Cost Accountant, and by A.V. Roe as accountant and rose to Vice President of Finance, in 1955; after A.V. Roe employed by Orenda Engines; married first Hilary Mennell then after Hilary's death Joe married Rhoda Mennell Talfourd-Jones; retired Hawker-Siddley 1975; died at Toronto 23 Mar., 1998.
Hilary, d/o James Leslie Mennell and Florence Mary Bell, was born Scarborough, England 2 Aug., 1914; married Joseph Turner III (1st wife)1935; Hilary died Toronto 11 Feb., 1947.
Rhoda was born on 31 March, 1917 at Valparaiso, Chile, 7th of 8 children born to James & Florence Mennell; married Paul Talfourd-Jones in England, 1939; after Paul's death in 1945 moved with children to Canada when her sister, Hilary, died in 1947; Rhoda married Joseph Turner III, abt. 1948 and the two families combined; Rhoda died at Toronto 12 April, 2001.
(Ed. Note: Joseph Turner is mentioned several times in the book "Shutting down The National Dream - A.V. Roe and the Tragedy of the Avro Arrow" by Greg Stewart foreword by Jan Zurakowski, McGraw-Hill Ryerson ISBN 0-07-549675-5)
Francis TURNER [1912-1992] m.1944 Audrey Alice HUGHES
Stephen, s/o Dwight Turner & Florence Phillips, born Toronto, 28 Apr, 1912; attended Upper Canada College; at the outbreak of WWII he entered the military and graduated form Brockville Officers Training Centre in 1941; after a course at Camp Borden, Ontario was made a full Lieutenant; stationed at Three Rivers, Quebec having completed a further O.T.C. (Officer Training Corps) he was made a Captain; the next move was to Vernon, British Columbia for the school of Infantry and was made Major; married Audrey Hughes 4 May, 1944; attached to the Australian-American forces to study "Amphibious Landing and Infantry Techniques" for the Canadian Military and participated in the invasion of Moratai, Moluccas Island Group (nw of Borneo); obtained the rank of Lt. Col. in the Royal Regiment of Canada; died at Toronto 14 Jan., 1992; bur. Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Toronto, ON, Canada (FAG 146606785).
Audrey was born Kingston, Ont.; d/o John Hughes of Kingston.
|13||Clarence TURNER [1877-1939]
Clarence, s/o Joseph Turner & Eliza McFarland; born Bay City; lived at Midland, Ont.; died at Boise, Idaho on 6 Nov, 1939, , 61yrs; interred 7 Nov, 1939, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich. (not aware of any marriage)
(Francis ?) TURNER [1880-1944]
Bessie K. LEWIS [1882-1956]
Stanley, s/o Joseph Turner & Eliza McFarland; born Bay City; while working for his father's lumber company he lived at Toronto and Midland, Ont, Canada; married 17 Oct, 1905; c.1919 worked for H. J. Heinz Co. at Los Angeles, CA; died at Los Angeles, Ca on 7 Oct, 1944, ae: 64; interred 21 Oct, 1944, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich.; (FAG: 171738026)
Bessie, d/o James M. Lewis & Katherine Spear; born 14 Jul, 1882; last residence was 1304 McKinley Ave, Bay City, Mich. (living with her, Miss. Marjorie Lewis, a sister); died 15 Jan, 1956, ae:73yrs; interred 18 Jan, 1956, Elm Lawn Cemetery, Bay City, Mich.; (FAG: 171738081)
See Also: Stanley: [Obit]; Bessie: [Obit]
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